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Distorting The Facts

New motorcycle crash study to finally begin

Oklahoma State University will conduct federally-funded study supplemented by donations from AMA, state safety programs
From the October, 2009 issue of Sport Rider
Photography: Killboy.com

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Community Comments

tclause  (10/15/09 09:52 PM)

Safe riders need three things Riding skills, common sense, and a motorcycle in good working order none of which the government can supply. We all know the govenment will solve any issues of safety by trying to ban high profile/performance motorcycles. I would like to keep riding my K8 Hayabusa and a new one when it is time to buy again. Thoughts by a 30 year veteran rider and a Police Officer

Timo65  (10/16/09 12:45 PM)

To continue the other comment, seems like too many gray areas that would distort the results. Like determining that cruisers are safer that crotch rockets without discounting the higher number of "Squids" on rockets. You can pretty much extract any result you want.  Even prove that no helmet is safe because of the disproportion of helmentless Harley riders.

tclause  (10/16/09 04:06 PM)

I agree with Timo65 statistics can be manipulated to what ever end result is desired.

kento1  (10/16/09 09:45 PM)

This study will be more in-depth than just the yearly statistics that NHTSA puts out. You will be able to distinguish between the "helmetless Harley riders" as well as the "squids on rockets". If the squids are a disproportionately high number of the fatalities, then that is something we're going to have to deal with. While I'm not a fan of big government, the fact that they at least earmarked $2 million for this study instead of just knee-jerking out a law banning sportbikes (like the IIHS- the same organization that has the safety ratings on cars that you see in TV ads- urged them to do by manipulating the NHTSA statistics a few years ago) is a step in the right direction. I think what this study will show is more that too many riders out there still don't have proper training to ride a motorcycle.

tclause  (10/17/09 04:28 AM)

There is a difference between good intentions and good results. I don't belive that the government needs to step in and run my life as I have done just fine for 40 years 30 of which I have been riding. My father taught me about riding and common sense. What we need are more fathers and less government. I have been a Police Officer for 17 years and it is my job to attend to bad behavior on motorcycles not the federal governmet. Common sense can not be legislated. The guy who will die on a sport bike will find some other way to kill himself. How many deaths are there in sport compact cars every year gonna ban those too when does it stop when we are all walking?

kento1  (10/17/09 07:51 AM)

I agree we need more fathers and less government, but the problem is that the government is already looking at us, so we need to obtain solid facts and use them to our benefit. Complaining about the government isn't going to get them off our backs. The Hurt Report didn't result in the banning of motorcycles, but it did result in better training for those who did possess a modicum of common sense.

tclause  (10/19/09 10:23 PM)

Natural selection takes care of those who don't posses the aforementioned  modicum of common sense. I think you may have made my point

kento1  (10/20/09 07:26 AM)

True, natural selection will cull those without common sense, but the problem is that the opposite seems to be the case when it comes to government officials.

tclause  (10/20/09 08:20 AM)

I have never heard a more true statement. Thanks for allowing me to vent you are a gentleman and a scholar.

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